Liz Wheeler: College is a privilege and you should pay for it, not me

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Do you agree?

  • Marty Koval

    When I went to college, I paid for it myself. Since I had my own sweat and equity
    into my education, I made sure I got the maximum value from my investment, by
    studying and learning as much as I could.

    When something is given free to someone, most people will not appreciate the gift.
    Secondly, they will not put their maximum effort into getting a solid education, because they have no skin in the game.

    It is an complete insult to all the people who paid for their own education with their own hard work and sacrifices. I am totally against this proposal and so should most tax payers. This program is another way for the liberal Democrats to buy votes from the sweat and equity of Conservative workers.

  • scott
  • Ah rugged individualism. Has such a strong ring. All this talk about doing it on ones own makes a man of a man and a woman of a woman (cannot make a man out of everyone.)

    To make people even stronger, two suggestions.

    1. Children attending college must pay the costs themselves–completely. No fair getting money from their parents. This should be true whether attending a community college or Harvard. Will make tougher stuff out of those soft rich kids who have been getting their cars, clothes, private schools, etc. from their parents wealth.

    2. Make all inheritance illegal. Real women (and men) will be proud that they started from scratch and could not take any money from their parents. When someone dies all their wealth goes to the state to be redistributed to people who really need it. No more Trump types who inherent a million bucks from their parents. After all, life is a privilege that must be earned–or you die trying.

  • paulrod

    I can’t recall who it was that said that a thing given for free is worth exactly that. College included.

  • randolph.poole

    Spot on!

  • Jim

    College is a privilege. Ok. I would rather see my kid stuffed in a well used outhouse then to be sent to one of those Sh_t holes. Most kids are pushed into it so mommy and daddy can say my kid is in college. Look at me. No thanks.

  • “The goal of socialism is communism” – Vladimir Lenin

    “We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America” – Barack Obama

    “…They have infiltrated every conceivable sphere of activity: youth groups, radio, television, and motion picture industries, church, school, educational and cultural groups, the press, national minority groups, and civil and political units…” John Stormer – “None Dare Call it Treason” 1964

    See: “AGENDA – Grinding America Down” – vimeo

    Read: “None Dare Call it Conspiracy” – Gary Allen, 1971 – read online

  • genann59

    I paid my way through my first two years of college, at a community college, working 40-60 hours a week. Then when I could not find a job where I wanted to finish college, I joined the Army and used my benefits to finish college, even earning a Masters Degree with no student debt.Still had to work part time to make ends meet, but it is possible. It can be done, not as easily as when I was a student, but it can be done by people who really want the degree(s) and do not want years of debt payments. Student loans cannot be forgiven. Five or so years after graduation the payments start, whether you can afford them or not. Better to choose either the military or go to state colleges where the tuition is affordable. And don’t forget voc ed, for training that will really help you make real money you won’t earn with a degree in gender studies or ethnic studies.

  • genann59

    Otherwise worded, You get what you pay for. Same idea and principle.

  • genann59

    Very good selection. We have been warned and have largely ignored the warnings, saying that just cannot happen in America.

  • M40

    “The goal of socialism is communism” – And that’s the big LIE told over and over again by socialists. They’ve been telling this whopper for a century, and there always a fresh crop of lowly followers to believe them.

    Communism is a pipe dream… a hollow promise that flies in the face of human nature. It has never worked outside of groups larger than an extended family. It certainly has never been adapted to a state or nation. In fact, the only truly successful communist endeavors on earth are seen in ant colonies and beehives.

    And yet socialists continue to promise communist goals while never intending to carry them out. Their ultimate goal is ALWAYS just socialism… wealth and power at the expense of others… until all the wealth is drained and the horrors begin.

  • John Richmond

    Let’s see what kinds of replies this gets…an interesting comment

  • jesusknight

    OMG.. that was AWESOME!!! Tell it like it is, Liz… these snowflakes need to hear the truth; that they are STEALING when they don’t pay for it themselves. When I went, I could only afford one semester, but at least I paid for it with my own hard earned money; not someone else’s.

  • Rattlerjake

    So exactly how is an ant colony or beehive a “communist endeavor”? It is obvious that YOU have no understanding of “social” insects. Contrary to the Disney propaganda, the “queen” is nothing but an egg-laying machine, she controls NOTHING about the hive, it is the workers who control her – they feed and care for her, they direct her to each cell to lay an egg in, when she doesn’t lay enough (because if age) they produce a new queen and oust the old, and if she dies, the workers immediately replace her – she does nothing but lay eggs. I’ve been an apiarist for 50 years!

    There are no examples of socialism in the animal kingdom. In every instance animals survive based on their ability fend for themselves. On those instances where the group shares the spoils it is only because they helped in obtaining those spoils. Those who refuse to help are either forced out of the “family unit” or killed! Example Drones in a beehive are forced out to starve when they either are no longer necessary (winter), or the resources available would be wasted on them – because they contribute nothing to the hive!

  • M40

    WOW… you managed to miss every point I made and also to reveal that you either skipped, or daydreamed through every social studies class, ever. Or maybe you were studying ants instead… at least you showed some aptitude there.

    However, my point had absolutely nothing to do with queens, nor does communism have monarchs or dictators.

    Each ant or bee has an assigned role for life. Each does his task willingly until death. All work for the common good, and all divide the fruits of their labors equally. All live in identical quarters, and none fare any better than the rest. They are all equals, each strong in its assigned task. That is in fact communism… they function as a commune. It works fairly well as a form of government when the citizens are all mindless drones… but NEVER works well with humanity.

    What ALL the “communist” countries on earth have in common is that they aren’t communist at all. They promised communism, and then implemented their own socialist regimes.

  • Rattlerjake

    You need to understand the difference between “EARLY” communism and “MODERN” communism. You’re talking early communism which was essentially replaced with modern communism with the emergence of the Soviet Union. In Modern communism there are TWO classes: 1) The ruling authoritarian government class who control everything, 2) All of the rest of the people. That is why communism is often confused with or mistaken for socialism.

    By the way, neither bees nor ants have “assigned” roles. Their entire existence is instinctive and they have different “jobs” dependent on their age. Unlike humans, honeybees can perform ALL of the jobs in the hive (except reproduction by fertile eggs).

  • M40

    So you’re saying that you believe the biggest lie ever told?

    Socialist nations that claim to be “communist” are anything but. The big lie that they tell their people, is that the socialist totalitarian regimes they’ve implemented are but a stepping stone towards communism.

    None of them have ever moved any further. Those in power… enjoy that power. Socialism, and the power it gives to those in government, was always their ultimate goal. As such, there has never been a single communist nation on earth. Communism has never been anything more than a pipe dream sold to dullards in order to implement socialism,

    But as Lenin said, “A lie told often enough, becomes the truth”. And as long as there are folks like you willing to keep repeating it, then he may have been right.

  • Hey You

    Mainly, college is to benefit (pay-back) professional “educators” for political support. The professional (so called) educators give a lot of support to statist activities. Hence, statists reward them for their support.
    Seems that we are sending too many kids who don’t benefit from college, to college. More workers and fewer intellectuals will result in more productive results. Yes, I attended college but it was engineering so it was productive.

  • Hey You

    Interesting comment that life is a privilege. Seems more likely that life is a mistake.